made a comment that I will vividly remember. He said that if I ever told anyone of his behavior that it would ruin his career. this was not an apology, nor was it an explanation. That was his last remark about the possibility of our going out or reference to his behavior In July of 1983, I left Washington, DC area and have had minimal contact with Judge Clarence Thomas since I am of course aware from the press that some questions have been raised about conversations I had with Judge Clarence Thomas after I left the EEOC. From 1983 until today, I have seen Judge Thomas only twice On one occasion, I needed to get a reference from him, and on another he made a public appearance in Tulsa On one occasion he called me at home and we had an inconsequential conversation on one occasion he called me without reaching me, and I returned the call without reaching him, and nothing came of it. i have on at least three occasions been asked to act as a conduit to him for others I knew his secretary, Diane Holt. We had worked together at both EEOC and education. There were occasions on which I spoke to her and on some of these occasions undoubtedly I passed on some casual comment to then chairman thomas there were a series of calls in the first three months of 1985, occasioned by a group in Tulsi which wished to have a civil rights conference. they wanted Judge Thomas to be the speaker and enlisted my assistance for this purpose I did call in January and February to no effect, and finally suggested to the person directly involved, Susan Cahal (ph) that she put the matter into her own hands and call directly. She did so in March of 1985. In connection with that March invitation, Ms Cahal(ph) wanted conference materials for the seminar and some research was needed I was asked to try to get the information and did attempted to do so There was another call about another possible conference in July of 1985. In August of 1987, I was in Washington, DC and I did call Diane Holt. In the course of this conversation, she asked me how long I was going to be in town and I told her. It is recorded in the message as August 15. It was, in fact, August 20th. She told me about Judge Thomas's marriage and I did say congratulate him It is only after a great deal of agonizing consideration that I am able to talk of these unpleasant matters to anyone except my closest friends As Ive said before these last few days have been very trying and verymade a comment that I will vividly remember. He said that if I ever told anyone of his behavior that it would ruin his career. This was not an apology, nor was it an explanation. That was his last remark about the possibility of our going out or reference to his behavior. In July of 1983, I left Washington, DC area and have had minimal contact with Judge Clarence Thomas since. I am of course aware from the press that some questions have been raised about conversations I had with Judge Clarence Thomas after I left the EEOC. From 1983 until today, I have seen Judge Thomas only twice. On one occasion, I needed to get a reference from him, and on another he made a public appearance in Tulsa. On one occasion he called me at home and we had an inconsequential conversation. On one occasion he called me without reaching me, and I returned the call without reaching him, and nothing came of it. I have on at least three occasions, been asked to act as a conduit to him for others. I knew his secretary, Diane Holt. We had worked together at both EEOC and education. There were occasions on which I spoke to her, and on some of these occasions undoubtedly I passed on some casual comment to then Chairman Thomas. There were a series of calls in the first three months of 1985, occasioned by a group in Tulsa, which wished to have a civil rights conference. They wanted Judge Thomas to be the speaker and enlisted my assistance for this purpose. I did call in January and February to no effect, and finally suggested to the person directly involved, Susan Cahal (ph) that she put the matter into her own hands and call directly. She did so in March of 1985. In connection with that March invitation, Ms. Cahal (ph) wanted conference materials for the seminar and some research was needed. I was asked to try to get the information and did attempted to do so. There was another call about another possible conference in July of 1985. In August of 1987, I was in Washington, DC and I did call Diane Holt. In the course of this conversation, she asked me how long I was going to be in town and I told her. It is recorded in the message as August 15. It was, in fact, August 20th. She told me about Judge Thomas's marriage and I did say congratulate him. It is only after a great deal of agonizing consideration that I am able to talk of these unpleasant matters to anyone except my closest friends. As I've said before these last few days have been very trying and very