agency on the ir beha If. and the records will show that the records which are in the hands of the administration Well, then, some of you will say, and rightly Well, what did you use the fund for, Senator? Why did you have to have it? Let me tell you in just a word how a Senate off ice operates. First of all, a Senator gets $15, 000 a year in salary He gets enough money to pay for one trip a year a round trip that is, for himself, and his family between his home and Washington, D. C. And then he gets an allowance to handle the people that work in his off ice to handle his ma il. and the allowance for my State of California, is enough to hire 13 people. And let me say incidentally that that allowance is not paid to the senator. It is paid directly to the individuals that the Senator puts on his pay roll. But all of these people and all of these allowances are for strictly off icial bus iness; business, for example when a constituent writes in and ants you to go down to the Veterans Administration and get some information about his gi po licy-- items of that type for example. But there are other expens that are not covered by the government. And i think I can best discuss those expenses by asking you some questions Do you think that when i or any other senator makes a political speech, has it printed should charge the printing of that speech a nd the mailing of that speech to the taxpayers? Do you think, for example when i or any other Senator makes a trip to his home state to make a purely political speech that the cost of that trip should be charged to the taxpayers? Do you think when a senator makes political broadcasts or political telev ision broadcasts, radio or telev ision, that the expense of those broadcasts should be charged to the taxpayers? Well I know what your answer is. It's the same answer that audiences give me whenever i discuss this blem: The answer is no. The tax finance items which are not of ficial business but which are primarily political Well, then the question arises, you say Well, how do you pay for these and how can you do it legally? And there are several ways that it can be done incidenta lly and it is done lega lly in the United states senate and in the congress. The first way is to be a rich man i don 't happen to be a rich man, so i couldn't use that one Another way that is used is to put your wife on the pay roll. Let me say inc ide nta lly, that my opponent my opposite number for the Vice presidency on the Democratic ticket does have his w if e on the pay roll a nd has had her on his pay roll for the past ten years. Now let me just say this: That' his business, and I'm not critical of him for oing that. You will have to pass judgment on that particular point. But I have never done that for this reason: I have found that there are so many deserving ste nogra phers and secretaries in Washington that needed the work that i just didn't feel it was right to put my wif e on the pay roll. My wif e' s sitting over here She is a wonderful stenographer. she used to teach stenography and she used to teach shorthand in high school. That was when I met her. And I can tell you folksagency on their behalf . And the records will show that, the records which are in the hands of the administration. Well, then, some of you will say, and rightly, "Well, what did you use the fund for, Senator? Why did you have to have it?" Let me tell you in just a word how a Senate office operates. First of all, a Senator gets $15,000 a year in salary. He gets enough money to pay for one trip a year, a round trip, that is, for himself , and his family between his home and Washington, D.C. And then he gets an allowance to handle the people that work in his of fice to handle his mail. And the allowance for my State of California, is enough to hire 13 people. And let me say, incidentally, that that allowance is not paid to the Senator. It is paid directly to the individuals that the Senator puts on his pay roll. But all of these people and all of these allowances are for strictly official business; business, for example, when a constituent writes in and wants you to go down to the Veteran's Administration and get some information about his GI policy -- items of that type, for example. But there are other expenses that are not covered by the Government. And I think I can best discuss those expenses by asking you some questions. Do you think that when I or any other senator makes a political speech, has it printed, should charge the printing of that speech and the mailing of that speech to the taxpayers? Do you think, for example, when I or any other Senator makes a trip to his home State to make a purely political speech that the cost of that trip should be charged to the taxpayers? Do you think when a Senator makes political broadcasts or political television broadcasts, radio or television, that the expense of those broadcasts should be charged to the taxpayers? Well I know what your answer is. It's the same answer that audiences give me whenever I discuss this particular problem: The answer is no. The taxpayers shouldn't be required to finance items which are not of ficial business but which are primarily political business. Well, then the question arises, you say, "Well, how do you pay for these and how can you do it legally?" And there are several ways that it can be done, incidentally, and it is done legally in the United States Senate and in the Congress. The first way is to be a rich man. I don't happen to be a rich man, so I couldn't use that one. Another way that is used is to put your wife on the pay roll. Let me say, incidentally, that my opponent, my opposite number for the Vice Presidency on the Democratic ticket, does have his wife on the pay roll and has had her on his pay roll for the past ten years. Now let me just say this: That' his business, and I'm not critical of him for doing that. You will have to pass judgment on that particular point. But I have never done that for this reason: I have found that there are so many deserving stenographers and secretaries in Washington that needed the work that I just didn't feel it was right to put my wife on the pay roll. My wife's sitting over here. She is a wonderful stenographer. She used to teach stenography and she used to teach shorthand in high school. That was when I met her. And I can tell you folks